tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37539477.post6631907592437690334..comments2023-10-20T04:10:43.719-05:00Comments on renewshaw.com: Banners & Shiloh: The good, the bad, & the bad & ugly.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37539477.post-13076359590145963202006-12-05T16:13:00.000-05:002006-12-05T16:13:00.000-05:00to me it seems a violation of seperation of church...to me it seems a violation of seperation of church & state as they are on public property promoting a religious message.sihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15462071771806237417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37539477.post-37286425887094386292006-12-03T13:36:00.000-05:002006-12-03T13:36:00.000-05:00Anon - I agree about the need to organize (on many...Anon - I agree about the need to organize (on many levels: from neighborhood watches to oversight of the ANC to assisting with Shaw Main Streets etc.) and I don't mean to come across as a passive aggressive anonymous blogger. I wrote about the banners to see if others are annoyed by them as well; I intend to follow-up regarding their propriety and will report again. Before jumping to action, I want to make sure I know the facts at play here.Shaw Rezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13445009438535700859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37539477.post-73329716006968620022006-12-03T09:23:00.000-05:002006-12-03T09:23:00.000-05:00Come stop on by to the "Smelly Whore" Cafe for a c...Come stop on by to the "Smelly Whore" Cafe for a cuppa and a chat. We really need to be organizing rather than impotently typing anonymously away in blogs. The bigger fish to fry is Shiloh (see my post in the "Off Seventh" blog).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37539477.post-16144726450182644782006-12-01T10:46:00.000-05:002006-12-01T10:46:00.000-05:00Ray - First of all, I've been wondering who I shou...Ray - First of all, I've been wondering who I should be giving credit to for the "Slum historique" moniker. I realized after the fact that I should have used "la" instead of "le," but oh well... <br /><br />Second, I will do some more research and make a subsequent post about the propriety of Shaw's signs.Shaw Rezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13445009438535700859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37539477.post-46898117321837018202006-12-01T09:17:00.000-05:002006-12-01T09:17:00.000-05:00I hate those obnoxious banners and I would love no...I hate those obnoxious banners and I would love nothing more than to see them come down. Shiloh thinks they are above the law and I am sure they didn't follow any legal procedures to hang their religious message throughout shaw..."building god's village". I remember reading on their website under the pastor's pen column that they were fighting to build god's village and that Vegetate didn't fit in to their plan of "god's village". See for yourself shilohbaptist.org under the paster's pen section.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37539477.post-25521643326224290802006-11-30T21:42:00.000-05:002006-11-30T21:42:00.000-05:00As the author and artiste of the Slum Historique, ...As the author and artiste of the Slum Historique, I am offended by the Shiloh in-your-face signs on public property. How do I get rid of them?<br /><br />Need your help: Ray MilefskyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37539477.post-85929080257401527222006-11-30T09:12:00.000-05:002006-11-30T09:12:00.000-05:00oops--comment 3 was from me, Shaw Rez.oops--comment 3 was from me, Shaw Rez.Shaw Rezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13445009438535700859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37539477.post-69419306483105880082006-11-30T09:04:00.000-05:002006-11-30T09:04:00.000-05:00It's tough. I understand that an evangelical would...It's tough. I understand that an evangelical wouldn't mind offending as long as it's offending with Biblical Truth. Toning a sign down to make it more pleasing to the neighborhood undermines the point of the sign. <br /><br />If the signs weren't put up with the permission of the pole owner (which would be just perfect considering how they held Vegetate to the letter of the law), then we have a case for the signs' removal. If that's the case, then we should have more leeway to help design future signs.<br /><br />If the signs were put up with the permission of the poles' owner, then we should lobby that owner for a say in what's an acceptable sign to us and what isn't. Most likely the pole is owned by DC or Pepco--either way, the restidents of Shaw (rather than the mostly suburban population of Shiloh and the churches) have a strong voice for change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37539477.post-3554861554262059392006-11-30T08:56:00.000-05:002006-11-30T08:56:00.000-05:00Other than directly in front of the church (maybe)...Other than directly in front of the church (maybe), these banners should not be displayed on publicly-owned fixtures...although the church is part of the community, I find their "claim" on the neighborhood offensive and as a taxpayer don't believe my public utility fixtures should be used to spread the word according to Shiloh...why aren't they spending the money to fix up their buildings??? I won't even get into the fact that more than 50% of their parishoners reside in Maryland...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37539477.post-1761015546896787932006-11-30T08:49:00.000-05:002006-11-30T08:49:00.000-05:00We gotta similar problem with a couple of churches...We gotta similar problem with a couple of churches over here on 5th St. I do a little, what I can, and I'd like to hook them up with better signage and shit but some church folks are just paranoid and suspect of anyone from the outside community offering to lend their talents in neighborly support. ... It doesn't help that some of their "core beliefs" are just plain offensive. It's like you gotta buy into every contradictory thing every written in the Bible before they think you are narrow or illiterate enough to trust to work for them -- even for free. I do what I can, it's an uphill battle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com